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		<title>Dealership repair shops&#8230; trust them if you like to donate money to the rich! (Re: solution to Passet/A6 2.8 cylinder misfire)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may sound like a rant, but there&#8217;s a silver lining to my tale: A year ago I experienced a persistent cylinder misfire on my poor 1998 A6 2.8, and so I go to my trusted mechanic friend at a VW dealership and got the advice to buy new spark wires and ignition coils.&#160; In [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound like a rant, but there&#8217;s a silver lining to my tale:</p>
<p>A year ago I experienced a persistent cylinder misfire on my poor 1998 A6 2.8, and so I go to my trusted mechanic friend at a VW dealership and got the advice to buy new spark wires and ignition coils.&nbsp; In I went, and all the stuff were putted in, the car ran just fine for 8 months.</p>
<p>October came, and car decided to misfire again (the dreaded P300-series error code from the OBD2 readout), but my mechanic friend is no were to be found.&nbsp; As my luck ran out (ie. the dealership closed down), I resorted to the <i>evil</i> act of bringing my beast to the Audi dealership for an official diagnostic.&nbsp; November came, and I dropped my car off at the <a mce_href="http://www.agincourtautohaus.com/" href="http://www.agincourtautohaus.com/">Agincourt Autohaus</a> dealership &#8211; the <b>reset</b> the error codes from the computer and declared the car worthy of driving.&nbsp; This was in fact the biggest mistake I have ever made!</p>
<p>December came, and as I return from the company Christmas party, the car finally smoked and gave out at the intersection of 16th Avenue and Woodbine Avenue on a cold Friday evening, I desperately called everyone from my family to the Audi dealership to figure out what I needed to do.&nbsp; First thing in my to-do list is to call a towing company to get this car OFF the busy intersection.&nbsp; Audi is nice to include a hazard sign in the trunk so that the oncoming traffic can <i><b>safely ignore</b></i> the sign and honk at a car that is smoking&#8230;&nbsp; 6 towing companies later, and <a mce_href="http://www.yellowpages.ca/bus/Ontario/Cardinal-Towing/307414.html?adid=13661639ad" href="http://www.yellowpages.ca/bus/Ontario/Cardinal-Towing/307414.html?adid=13661639ad">Cardinal Towing</a> came to my rescue promptly and professionally.&nbsp; At least my towing experience has been extremely pleasant.</p>
<p>Now, you must think by towing your car to an Audi dealership (this time, <a mce_href="http://dfcaudi.com/" href="http://dfcaudi.com/">Uptown Audi</a>) with a real problem, they would know what to do right?&nbsp; Wrong!&nbsp; Once again, they misdiagnose the car and said I had burnt spark plug wire, and that my problem with the misfiring cylinders were to replace the spark plug wires, plugs, and clean the injectors and throttle body.&nbsp; $1300 later, I said to myself, they know what they are doing &#8211; I dropped the car when it was completely dead so they MUST be able to find the problem.&nbsp; Sadly, within 12 hours of getting the car back (and with only 15 km added to the odometer), the misfire returned.&nbsp; Brought the car back, and this time I got a quote for $4800 to replace two catalytic convertors, 4 oxygen sensors and 6 exhaust nuts.</p>
<p>Any reasonable person would rationalize &#8211; why would you want to throw in so much money to a used and old car?&nbsp; On the other hand, if I don&#8217;t repair the car, I can&#8217;t extract the other 50% of the value of the car (no one would buy the car in the current condition).&nbsp; Out of desperation, we found our old mechanic friend who suggested another person who may be able to save us &#8211; but only in January , which brings us to our interesting conclusion to this post.</p>
<p>January 3rd came, and car went into the shop for the catalytic converter replacement &#8211; we were told (and have seen) the old part would have burnt up the car if we didn&#8217;t repair it.&nbsp; What we didn&#8217;t do was to tell the mechanic about the history of the car and why we are doing these repairs, and so another 200km later, the symtons returned.&nbsp; I call the mechanic to ask him to conduct a thorough diagnostic on the car, and turns out the ignition coils were <b>defective</b> again.&nbsp; What made me more mad was that if Agincourt Autohaus properly diagnosed the car intially, we would spend $550 on the repair ($327.30 for the ignition coils at VW/Audi dealer, 1 hour install and standard $95 diagnostic fee) rather than the $2800 catalytic convertor replacement.</p>
<p>The moral of the story:</p>
<ol>
<li>Don&#8217;t trust Audi dealers, they are crooks.&nbsp; In general, don&#8217;t trust the dealers unless you know the mechanic personally.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t allow dealers to tell you want you need to repair until you see the damage.&nbsp; Our desperation in getting a working car caused us a lot of money.&nbsp; Dealers are evil.&nbsp; (Unfortunately, most repair shops are evil too, so I you just better do a lot of research on the net)</li>
<li>Trust your instinct &#8211; if the car reports a cylinder misfire &#8211; triple-check all of the ignition electronics (ignition coils, spark plug and wires) and replace the part if suspect.&nbsp; Our lack of trust (and assumption that 1-year old part cannot be defective) caused a much bigger repair bill than needed. Audi A6 2.8 / VW Passat 2.8 ignition coils tend to get destroyed quickly for some reason.</li>
<li>Genuine VW/Audi parts are actually better and more reliable.</li>
<li>Lastly, don&#8217;t trust the dealers.&nbsp; They are evil, very evil.&nbsp; I know, I said it before.</li>
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